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Rampton Family History Report
9 April 2017
Written by Carol Merrell
Goals for March 2017
- To finished the editing project for the Henry Rampton Book. It is finished.
Some hard copies of pictures were sent to us by family members for this book and need to be returned. Jean Nelson, Helen Reeder, and I have sorted through the pictures. I am in the process of contacting family members for verification of ownership and returning the pictures. We also found among the items sent, a third version of a diary/life history of Henry Rampton originally given to his son, George Albert Rampton. This needs to be transcribed and added to our collection.
- To begin searching for all the descendants of Sarah & John Norgate 1767-1836, the grandparents of Henry Rampton. I found an interesting story I wanted to share about Frederic John Bull, a grandson of John Norgate. See Chart.
I will continue to work on the Norgate line. I believe it will take several years. There are many, many Norgate families in the area and it is difficult to place individuals in their correct families.
New research projects for 2018:
- I have been contacted by a cousin, Gill Piper, from Australia, who is a descendant of Richard Kersley and Elizabeth Staples. He has shared his records on his Kersley line with me. He also believes that Elizabeth Staples is not the daughter of George Staple and Mary Plummer of Kent, England, 70 miles away. I agree with him. There is no proof of relationship. She simple has the right name and is born in the right time period, but in another county 70 miles away. Gill and I have found 12 other Elizabeth Staples within a 50-mile radius of Herriard where Richard Kersley and Elizabeth Staples were married. These Elizabeth Staples are also born in the right time period. Gill and I are going to divide and conquer by researching each possible candidate and their families in hopes of finding a connection.
- I have also been contacted by Pauline Gale from Southampton. She is a descendant of Edward Rampton. Edward does not have a recorded christening record. He has no proof of parentage. She believes he is the son of Thomas Rampton and Katherine Kersley (or a brother to Jonathan Rampton.) His birth year is 1769, calculated from his burial record. This date makes him fit nicely in the birth order between our Jonathan Rampton 1768 and Jane 1771. There are 3 ½ years between the two siblings. It is possible.
Someone has already added Edward to the Thomas & Katherine Kersley Rampton family on FamilySearch. I plan to do descendancy research on this line also.
My Relationship to Frederic John Bull
Elizabeth Norgate William Norgate
Henry Rampton Lucy Ellen Norgate
Jane Maud Rampton Frederic John Bull
Ada Alice Hinman 8 children
Ada Jean Thorpe 25 grandchildren
From the obituary of Frederic John Bull, “For many years Mr. Bull had possessed a firm faith in the Lord and to him the resurrection promises and a future life in the Kingdom of God and its establishment on earth was the source of all hope and joy. May his loved ones also be comforted by these scriptural promises.” 26 Mar 1942 (90 years old).
I had the assignment from our last meeting to look into a blog page/website for our HRFA. We need a place to post Arlene’s research, Henry Rampton’s diaries, missionary letters, etc., reunion info, and meeting minutes. The only person I know to get expert advice from is my daughter, Brooke (34 years old). This is what she does for a living.
Jay told us in our last meeting that it would cost $2,000 to set up a new website. Brooke said it was true if we were starting from scratch, but there is another option. I told her to go ahead and write a proposal for the family to discuss at our meeting today. This is her proposal.
“Saturday April 8, 2017
I am Carol Merrell’s daughter, Brooke Banta. I’ve been working with Blogger and WordPress for 8 years with my own business Leelou Blogs I do not build websites from scratch but customize coding and themes within the WordPress and Blogger Frameworks. Both Blogger and WordPress are very user friendly and will allow for multiple authors to post on the site. Making it easier for the Rampton Family organization to delegate updating the site including the minutes, calendars, and genealogy information. With the full website built from scratch, it’s difficult to teach others how to use it as well as trusting that they won’t modify anything they shouldn’t be. WordPress and Blogger have built in limitations for users so that they cannot modify the website functionality or design.
From what my mother and I discussed about the website, I do not recommend using Blogger for a family website. It is built as a blog which is an online journal. While modifications can be made to make it act more like a website, it has limited options for integrations for calendars and other multimedia. It is a free option, but Blogger will limit the things that a website can be used for. It is only as secure as your google account.
I would recommend using a self-hosted WordPress site. The security for it is a lot better than Blogger. WordPress has a lot more options for communication, Search Engine Optimization (SEO), and a multitude of Plugins that can be used easily to create photo albums, calendars, family trees, etc. It is also VERY user friendly in comparison to built-from-scratch websites. So, WordPress does require Self hosting which costs $3.95 per month or $47.40 per year. As well as the domain purchase of $15 a year.
In looking over the things that would need to be coded and customized, I can design the website for $600 whether its Blogger or WordPress. I can help my Mom build up the information that you would like on the site. I typically charge extra for site maintenance and for helping post information, but would be more than happy to help do it for free. I can help keep the site running smoothly, answer questions, and help everyone get the training they need to use it.
Between the hosting ($47.40), domain ($15), and website design ($600) the initial cost would be $662.40. Then the cost would be around $63 dollars a year for hosting services.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Rampton Family History Report
20 March 2016
Written by Carol V. Merrell
Goals for March 2016
- I have completed the goal to upload copies of our HRFA collection of Hampshire, England records associated with our Rampton ancestors as well as all other direct line ancestors to Family Tree. (I was given permission to publish these Hampshire Parish Records of our ancestors on Family Tree by David Rymill, Archivist. He stated, “If this is just a few pages that mention your ancestors (as opposed to significant proportions of whole registers) we wouldn’t have any problem with this. A credit to Hampshire Record Office would be appreciated.” I have complied with this request.
- To continue support of the Henry Rampton Book through editing.
- To create a documented Rampton Family Tree on Ancestry.com. This will allow others with matching DNA to find our common ancestors.
- My Ancestry family tree is “Henry Rampton Family Tree” and is open to public view. You can find it at:
I have added all Henry Rampton’s direct line ancestors with documentation. I am currently working on the descendancy research for the John Norgate 1767-1836 line and continuing to add names to FamilySearch Family Tree.
- All matches for John Rampton (on my tree) are known cousins, except for Cathryn from Australia. She believes her ancestor, Denis Norgate, is a missing child of our John Norgate 1746-1828 and Susannah Lovelock 1746. She has been willing to share her research. I do not have John’s “Hansen” ancestry, so there are no ancestors in common on those lines.
- Many matches for Fawn Jetta (on my tree) are also known Rampton cousins. I do not have Fawn’s “Dinwoody” or “Young” lines, so there are other DNA matches that have no common ancestors. Is there someone interested and willing to add their Dinwoodey line to Ancestry.com? Ancestry would allow us to share Fawn’s DNA with that additional line to further Dinwoodey research.
Goals for March 2017
- Finish Henry Rampton Book
- Continue descendancy research on the Norgate line.
Rampton Family History Report of LaRaye Sheridan and Carol Merrell
29 March 2015
Written by Carol Merrell
Goals for March 2015
- To finish uploading our HRFA collection of English records associated with our Rampton Ancestors to Family Tree:
I was given permission to publish these Hampshire Parish Records of our ancestors on Family Tree by David Rymill, Archivist. He stated, “If this is just a few pages that mention your ancestors (as opposed to significant proportions of whole registers) we wouldn’t have any problem with this. A credit to Hampshire Record Office would be appreciated.”
I am complying with their request and uploading documents associated with our direct line so as not to publish significant portions of the registers. This project is still in progress.
- To digitize Arlene Eakles’s research binders presented at the September 2013 HRFA Executive Meeting:
This project has been completed. A copy is available to upload to our HRFA Website.
- To begin searching for the ancestors of John Robertson MacDuff:
Brian Butler, a MacDuff cousin, has opened a blog spot for John Robertson MacDuff Research Collaboration https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x0mzbt58ier7dr8/AAByPgaO6T9ksocQdNFpWlLya?dl=0
All are welcome to visit, browse, add information, and help with research projects.
- To continue support of the Henry Rampton Book through editing.
- To collect DNA specimens of nearest descendants of Henry Rampton to help with future research on the Rampton, Dinwoodey, and MacDuff lines: Fawn Jetta Beesley & John Robertson Rampton are the closest living descendants and have both agreed to participate in the DNA testing. Fawn is the granddaughter of Henry & Frances Rampton; John is the grandson of Henry and Ada Alice Rampton.
Goals for September 2015
- To finish uploading our HRFA collection of Hampshire, England records associated with our Rampton Ancestors to Family Tree
- To finish final editing phase of the Henry Rampton Book
- To continue searching for the ancestors of John Robertson MacDuff
- To collect and submit DNA specimens from John Robertson Rampton and Fawn Jetta Beesley
Rampton Family History Report of LaRaye Sheridan & Carol Merrell
28 September 2014
Written by Carol Merrell
Goals for Oct 2014
- To continue uploading documents found on the HRFA website to Family Tree.
I have uploaded and attached all USA documents to our ancestors in Familysearch.org/tree.
I also have uploaded and attached all pages from Henry Rampton’s Diary and Henry Rampton’s Life History with reference to any vital statistics for our ancestors.
I have begun to upload and attach English documents to our ancestors. I was not sure if these parish records were public domain or were copyright protected, so I contacted the Hampshire Record Office. I was given permission to publish Hampshire Parish Records of our ancestors by David Rymill, Archivist. He stated, “If this is just a few pages that mention your ancestors (as opposed to significant proportions of whole registers) we wouldn’t have any problem with this. A credit to Hampshire Record Office would be appreciated.” I will comply with their request and move forward with this project.
- To review Arlene’s research binders and add all Rampton families to Family Tree, including those families not linked to our family yet.
I have gone through Arlene’s research binders and believe that all binders needs to be digitized and added to our family website so others do not waste their time in duplicating this work. She has thoroughly searched and documented all Hampshire Ramptons. Included in her research are other family names that will need further work.
- To begin searching for the ancestors of John Robertson MacDuff.
I have made contact with a group of MacDuff cousins and have collected all known documents regarding John Robertson MacDuff and his family. I have uploaded these documents to familysearch.org/tree. Our next step will be to find all MacDuff/McDuff/Duff marriages in Scotland and begin building family units.
Goals for March 2015
- To finish uploading England documents found on the HRFA website to Family Tree
- Digitize Arlene’s research binders
- To begin searching for the ancestors of John Robertson MacDuff
Rampton Research Report—Fall, 2014
Submitted by Arlene Eakle
( I learned recently that Times New Roman is not easy to read online and needs to be converted to Calibri or Cambrini which are much easier to read—especially when small. So I am doing this report in Calibri to begin with.)
When you compare the List of Records and Sources submitted 29 September 2013, with the actual persons found, there are some important gaps:
- In Dates—our John Rampton was born about 1665-67 give or take a year or two. He died in 1734. His residence was Herriard, specifically Southrope. (Please refer to the map printed, with the printed Hearth Tax Rolls including names of places associated with the research we have completed–highlighted in yellow. It is attached to this report.) There is a good chance that John originates in Greywell, a very small parish in Odiham Hundred, east of Basingstoke. Today, Greywell is part of Nately—Upton Nately and Nately Scures. And we have gap in our research for about 50 years. I am concentrating on that gap now with a list of sources either not available before now, or not yet searched before now. This includes the parish register and the monumental inscriptions for Greywell. We ordered copies from England because, for some reason, they are not in the Family History Library (FHL) in Salt Lake City. The register begins about 1603-1604.
- In Names—the naming patterns for Ramptons in or near Greywell match the names that John chose for his children—both boys and girls. They also match the Ramptons that John himself, was associated with during his lifetime. Naming patterns are important—especially the given names. Names like Thomas, and Francis, and William, and Barbara (remember that John named one of his daughters Barbery in his will).
- In Places—I have drafted a list of the parishes mentioned in wills and other documents where John appears or which are nearby the places he resided—that we have not yet researched. These places have Ramptons living there—sort of like spilling over the border from known residences.
- In Relationships—This is an important gap. I have puzzled over how we can have only 6 wills (including John Rampton’s will)? Especially when you consider the numerous index entries discovered—we have searched will indexes from the mid-1400’s through 1750+. And we have not found all of the records for the names that appear in the indexes.
We also have references to people mentioned in property records from the Master Index of the Hampshire Record Office. Now this Master Index is a work in progress—it is online, it is very detailed, and it is being added to. Carol Merrell and I have worked with this index since she and Dr. Rod went to Hampshire and searched it the first time in the Record Office. We are still working with it—Carol is ordering several documents described in this index from England that do not appear to be on film or digitized by the FHL.
Actually this is an exciting thing—we have search gaps, and there are still records to fill them.
In the past, family members tried to make the best of search gaps—fitting together whatever evidence they could find. We don’t have to do that. And the Master Index reveals every person and every place and every document in the Record Office! It makes a wonderful companion to the collection at the FHL.
Current genealogists in Hampshire have created additional indexes and the Family History Library has finally received these—
- Pre-1752 Hampshire Baptism Index. We start with the entries in the Index and then search the original parish registers, either on microfilm or microfiche. This ensures that we do not miss entries that are almost black with age or ink stains and are often not readable on microfilm.
- Pre-1660 Hampshire Marriage Index. This index includes marriage licenses and bonds as well as parish entries. So this index picks up records of persons who are moving around from place to place and are often difficult to track just reading the parish register.
- Hampshire Wills, (1483-1653). We searched this index before for Rampton entries—there is an early John, and a Thomas, who have wills. And several females who appear in other peoples’ wills. After the documents arrive from England, we hope to have some of these documents. We still have not found all those listed in the index, even though there is a microfilm number associated with each name. Since page numbers are not consistent, finding all the entries can be difficult.
Remember, that Hampshire genealogists opted to do their own indexes for Hampshire ancestors rather than put their entries into nation-wide indexes. When compared against these national indexes—there are many more entries!
Other records currently being researched—search results will be forthcoming in my next report
(and I will orient the results to the gaps described above—dates, names, places, and relationships):
- Probate Records–The Probate process includes several other documents besides the will and the inventory: Administrations for persons who did not leave a will. Bonds to ensure that executors, trustees, and family members did not waste money or goods that rightfully should descend to heirs. Renunciations for executors who refused to serve and heirs who rejected the responsibility of property. Guardianships for children left property and adults who could not handle their own affairs. Schedule of Valuations for lands. Will Wrappers include parts of wills and inventories. Memoranda Books which grant permission of the court to probate the will. Act Books with grants of probate before the Vicar General in the Bishop’s courts. Commissioners Records recording oaths.
- Manor Records for South Warnborough—including baron court rolls, valuations and rentals of lands. Our John Rampton’s son, Francis died in South Warnborough and there is evidence that John’s mother Ann Hawkins also died here. Her second husband, George Hawkins was born here and his family comes from here. The records were filmed in 1990, but these reels did not come into the FHL until recently.
- Chancery Court Records—for persons and families who did not get along and made claims against each other for payment, surrender of property, and fulfillment of obligations. These records are extremely important for persons who owned land—and John Rampton did own land; but, they are imperfectly indexed. So these will be searched last—so we have some references to get us into the right stuff.
At my next report, I may not be finished with all of these searches. I will present a tentative pedigree for John Rampton and his background. He was born about 1665-67: In 1665, there was a hearth tax taken throughout Hampshire. We have looked at this tax before with a much broader focus (and this information is already on the Rampton website). These are John’s relatives—we need to work out how they are related to him and to each other.
William Rampton, 1 hearth chargeable
Richard Rampton, Junior, 1 hearth chargeable
Thomas Rampton, 1 hearth chargeable
Richard Rampton, 1 hearth not chargeable
In Monk Sherborne:
John Rampton, 2 hearths not chargeable
Edward Rampton, 1 hearth not chargeable
Also in Monk Sherborne:
Edward Rampton, 1 hearth chargeable
William Omedee, 8 hearths, chargeable
Those men “not chargeable” are over age 45 in peace-time and older than 60 in time of war. While Junior often indicates a father-son relationship, and we know that Richard Rampton did have a son named Richard, this is only circumstantial proof of father-son relationship.
Posted on the Rampton website, http://www.henryramptonfamily.org, you will find the 6 wills (and accompanying inventories) mentioned above. Francis Moore transcribed them from the originals, and I edited them just a bit. I invite you to review them and their contents—related persons and how related. Household furnishings and much more. Barbara Rampton’s will names eleven relatives—called kinsmen and kinswomen, leaving us to figure out what the relationship is, in addition to specific relatives.
More wills are coming from England. And from the searches outlined above. We know that your surname Rampton, spelled just this way, has been in England since 1150. There are legends that Rampton could be a French surname. First, we do the searches. Then we put the pedigree together. Stay tuned! You don’t want to miss a single, exciting story or connection! Your favorite genealogist, Arlene Eakle http://arleneeakle.com
Rampton Family Organization, Research Report
Presented by Arlene Eakle
30 March 2014
The Genealogical Institute, P.O. Box 129
Tremonton, UT 84337-0129
(Arlene I didn’t catch the beginning of your report on tape. The recording started with . . . .
Carol ordered the parish registers and the cemetery recording from Greywell. I’d like to remind you where Greywell is. Greywell is just a little tiny parish, very, very small, on a large canal. The canal goes right through the town. The amount of territory is very, very small. The parish register begins in 1604 and it has been put onto microfiche by the Record Office in Hampshire. We have ordered a copy of that parish register. It is not available in Salt Lake City. There were some entries that were extracted by the researchers for the LDS Church and sent to the Rampton family organization. The temple work was done on those Ramptons that were extracted and sent in. This was done a long, long time ago and it was in the work that LaRaye gave to me to review.
I went through that parish register now twice. I’m going to go through it many, many more times. The reason being that it is the original register. It’s on leather, heavy leather. It’s not on light weight fool’s cap or parchment, it is on leather. There are some parts that are very difficult to read because of that, but there are parts that were not well copied or they had faded so badly that they wouldn’t copy. There are several years where that actually applies. It goes up to 1812 and so there are quite a few images that are there on the microfiche.
On the very first page there was an entry for Elizabeth, daughter of Thomas Rampton and she was christened in 1604. The temple work has been done for the Thomas’ that are there a little bit afterward, but we don’t have full families.
I have created a little short pedigree that goes down to a John that was born in the 1650’s as nearly as I can tell, but there may be other family members there. What we are trying to do is to link our John to a set of parents. Now the reason that I feel that this information is really significant is because, if you will remember, the lady that we actually think could be John’s mother, remarried to a man named George Hawkins. There are several Hawkins that are present in the Greywell register. There are also entries for Goodier and Goodier is another . . . Maria was a partner of John Rampton in land transactions and we have those documents already. It doesn’t tell us how she is related to him, but I think she is. The Goodier’s are also present in Greywell.
What I want to do is go very carefully through that parish and get those names out of that original register. There will be some pages that I can’t read at all. Then I will go through the cemetery readings and see exactly what we have. Then I will put together that information with the information that we currently have, because we have gone through all of the wills for Hampshire, every single will from various and sundry jurisdictions. Carol, during my hiatus, has seen that the wills and inventories were transcribed (by Francis Moore of Tremonton) and typed, ready to present at this meeting. I’m going to compare those against the originals because there were some words which they could not read.
By the next meeting, I will be able to give you a report on exactly who I think are John’s parents along with the proof. Greywell was kind of a wild card, because we didn’t have all of the information out of there. There is enough information in Greywell, and the nice part about it is all the temple work can be done for these people, by putting the family together. Only the baptisms have been done. The other ordinances have not been complete, because there were no relationships to put it together.
It is such a small parish that probably the majority of the people are related to each other. There is almost no way that they could live there over time and not be related either by blood or by marriage.
Question: In 1604 who was the father of Elizabeth?
Question: Does it give a mother?
Arlene: “No, not in those early records. The English never did record the mother until much later, and if they did reference her, it will usually say ‘Thomas Rampton and his wife,’ but there is not a name.
There are deaths for two Thomas Ramptons, one in 1618 and one in 1626. Those are deaths, so you know that puts them well into the 1500’s.
Question: What do we use for records before then, if that is when they started records?
Arlene: We go into other documents like the manor court records. We have already been dabbling in them, but not in the period before 1600.
Question: So now that would be the next step.
Arlene: We do have some exciting documents that Carol is going to put onto the website. The land documents are very significant things.