An Oral Report by Arlene Eakle
The Genealogical Institute, P.O. Box 129
Tremonton, UT 84337-0129
4 April 2010
Hi Rampton Family,
I’m sorry that I can’t be present because this is an exciting report. Before I actually get started on the report, I have prepared corrected family group sheets for John Rampton Sr. with his first wife Jane. She was buried on the 13th of July 1695 in Herriard. She had two girls as nearly as we can tell. Both of them seem to have died fairly young. We only have a death date for one. Then I have corrected a family group sheet for John Rampton, Sr. and his wife Elizabeth Goodwin. I did a careful re-reading of John Rampton Sr.’s will. It is printed for you in this rather lengthy handout of the back side of this family group sheet. I want to draw your attention half-way down the right-hand side of the page I have put an arrow because the reading of the will says, “I give unto Elizabeth Reading the wife of John Reading and Mary Barbery and Sarah Rampton my four daughters to each of them the sum of 12 pence.”
Herriard Img 903, Family Group Sheet of John & Jane Rampton (Apr 2010)
Herriard Doc 011, Burial of Jane Rampton 1695, FHL Film #1041307 Item 12
Herriard Img 902, Family Group Sheet of John & Elizabeth Rampton (Apr 2010)
Herriard Doc 002, Will of John Rampton 1733
Herriard Doc 002a, Transcription of will of John Rampton 1733
The Will of John Rampton
FHL Film #1597379, 1731-1737
25 Dec 1733
“In the name of God amen I John Rampton of the Parish of Herriard in the County of Southton Blacksmith being in health of body and of sound and perfect mind and memory do make and ordaine this my last will & testament in manner following hereby making voide all former wills by me att any time heretofore made Ffirst I commend my soule to God gave it in hope of Salvation through the merrits of Jesus Christ my body I commit to the earth to be decently buried att the desersion of my Executive hereafter named And touching the disposition of my temporal estate I dispose theeof in manner following Ffirst I will that all my just debts and funerall charges shall be truly paid & discharged Also I give unto Elizabeth READING the wife of John READING & Mary Barbery & Sarah RAMPTON my four daughters to each of them the sum of twelve pense Also I give to Thomas RAMPTON and Ffrancis RAMPTON my two sons to each of them the sum of twelve pense All the rest & residus of my reale and personal estate goods chattells of what kind soever I give and bequeath unto Elizabeth RAMPTON my dearly beloved wife who I make full & solo executrix of this my last will and testament In witness whereof I the said John Rampton to this my last will and testament have sett my hand & seale this 23rd day of December Anno Dom. 1733.
Signed sealed published declared and delivered in the presence of us Stephen HALL Mich. HAMLIN
Signed John RAMPTON”
Now he clearly states that there are four daughters. This would be Elizabeth, Mary, Barbara, and Sarah. I believe there is an additional daughter in this family. I have corrected the family group sheet in order to reflec t that. I have provided the evidence, so that you could actually see it to see if you agree with me.
I have divided the report into two parts; first of all, the section with the family group sheet, and then second, with the new information which we’ve discovered. Now I can’t take full credit for this. I’ve done the research, but Carol found a reference to the Rampton One-Name-Study. It is because of this one-name-study that I have changed direction in the research, and in my opinion this one-name-study which we found on the internet has saved countless hours of research because we didn’t know precisely where John Rampton came from. Now we have an opportunity to determine it. John Rampton and his wife Elizabeth are recorded in Latin in the parish of Preston-Candover, or Candover-Preston. (It is known by both names.) There is a map in your report which shows exactly where that parish is located. You’ll have an opportunity to look at it if you’ll look half-way down the page, you will be able to follow where the arrow points directly to that particular parish and you’ll notice that it is not very far from Herriard.
Preston-Candover Doc 001, Marriage of John Rampton & Elizabeth Goodwin 1696
Hampshire County Img 701, Map of Ancient Jurisdictions of the Manor of Basingstoke 1225 (Under copyright protection)
The one-name-study was compiled by Sue Daws. Unfortunately the last entry on her pages is in 2006. There is no updating of that site since then. I am not sure if she is still around or still at work, but what she has left us is a beautiful legacy. If you would like to look at it yourself, the website is: http://www.databaseconnect.co.uk/interests/Sue/genealogy/
I have also abstracted from her pages the lineage which could very well be your John Rampton’s ancestry. There is still much research to be done in order to prove this including the wills. We have two new indexes to the wills for Hampshire County. One indexes the wills prior to 1650. The second one goes up to 1653 and then has a later section. Those wills will have to be very carefully researched.
Herriard Img 904, Family Group Sheet & Info of John Rampton by Sue Daws
Herriard Img 904a, Family Group Sheet & Info of John Rampton by Sue Daws
Now there is a portion of this family that is closely connected with the parish of Tadley. That parish is what is known as a peculiar. I’ve talked about this jurisdiction when we met last time, but one of the important aspects of a peculiar is they have their own wills. We have those wills on microfilm in Salt Lake City and they will need to be researched. I do not know to what degree they are indexed in the Hampshire Will Index, but there are a couple of references to Tadley, and we will take a very careful look in the next stage of our research.
The reason why this family looks like a very good one is because of the naming patterns that we see here. Also the widow of Francis Rampton, who is the son of John Rampton and Elinor, his wife, marries a man by the name of George Hawkins. Now she actually resides in Monk Sherborne, Tadley, and Pamber in Hampshire with Francis. After his death, she marries George Hawkins of Herriard. She follows him to Herriard, and that’s, of course, where she lives afterward. It is a very good possibility that if Francis and Anne are the parents of your John, that she would take her children with her to Herriard and that’s where your John would be raised. We know that by the time he reaches adulthood and appears as an adult in Herriard, that he is quite well-to-do, that he is a landowner, and that his land is rented by some of the most important people in the parish.
Monk Sherborne Img 902, Pedigree Chart of Francis Rampton 1645 (Apr 2010)
I have reproduced several of the important pages for you in the handout that we have prepared for you, so that you will be able to read this information, because obviously there is only one large report and as I’ve said, it is based on the Rampton One-Name-Study and the Ramptons of Herriard, John Rampton with his two wives, Jane and Elizabeth.
Now Sue Daws did not know Elizabeth’s surname because she found the marriage of the two and assumed that it could be the right marriage because of the time period and because of its proximatry to Herriard. The important part however, is that we know what Elizabeth’s surname is, and that’s Goodwin. The GoodwineHs are also very well-to-do. They are landowners and there are some members of that family that go into the landed gentry and the nobility, so they are easier to search actually than the Ramptons have been in the past.
Now when I began this next stage of the research in the fall, I took the names of the John Ramptons that were located in the IGI and in other databases which the Church has made available to us. I mapped where these John’s were located, so that I could determine based upon their proximaty to Hampshire which ones would be most apt to fit. I was looking carefully at a John Rampton who came from the area of Basingstoke and Monk Sherborne. Well, there wasn’t a lot of information that came from the IGI, but going into this Rampton One-Name-Study, it becomes much easier to track these families.
Let me pause for a moment and talk about what a one-name-study is. This was an idea that began a number of years ago in the British Isles especially, but it has spread to other countries as well; that if a person were interested in a particular name, and as they went through the records they took out everybody by that name, they could create a database which would enable other researchers to benefit from their work and we wouldn’t have to duplicate the research that everybody was doing. It was a very sound idea. Now in the past we used to refer to this as “name gathering”, but it has a much more precise and focused purpose. It enables us as we go through the records to be able to find where pockets of the surname we are interested in are located in the British Isles. Then we can go in and do research in those areas. So as Sue Daws has completed her one-name-study, she has identified where the Ramptons are located. There aren’t a huge number of them, as you will see when you look at the pages. They’re in a few of the areas that we can see; and, of course, she started with all of those that were in Hampshire.
Then she branched out and looked in other places as well. We don’t have to duplicate her research. What we can do is go into the records and actually pull out the entries that we feel are the ones that match the ones we are looking for.
I believe that we have already discovered that in John and Elinor and their son Francis and his wife Anne. This looks like the most likely lineage of your ancestor. When I first began, I do remember that there was a tradition that someone had had a feeling that John Rampton, or someone by that name, would be the ancestor. If that is true and this lineage proves to be the correct one, we will have found the John Rampton you were looking for originally.
Monk Sherborne Img 901, Family Group Sheet of John & Elinor Rampton (Apr 2010)
The very first thing that I did after I came across the Rampton Family One-Name-Study, I went into the parish registers of Candover-Preston and went carefully through them. I did find the original entry for John Rampton who married Elizabeth, but it does not include her surname. This is not unusual in this particular parish register. There are many surnames that are left off. When they have been transcribed, (and they have been transcribed several times and I copied all the transcriptions) it is very very interesting that in the preface to the transcriptions they mention the fact that the incomplete entries have been omitted. In most of the transcriptions John Rampton and his wife, Elizabeth, do not appear. The date is incomplete because all we have is the date of 1696. Actually there are three marriages for 1696 that are interposed between 1697 and 1698, and so they have been added as an afterthought.
Quite frequently when a particular marriage was performed or baptism was performed by the parish priest, there was someone who made a recording of it, but usually it’s on a loose sheet of paper. Then at some point when the clerk of the parish has some time or the priest himself, they will enter it into the parish register. Many times those loose pieces of paper are lost. They may be inserted into the register book and then they may drop out from time to time, or they may just be left behind in a pocket, or a book, or a case on a shelf, or in a saddle bag. As a result many kinds of these entries are lost, but, we do have this one. I really do believe that it is your John married to Elizabeth Goodwin. There are Goodwins in that parish.
One of the things that we have to watch for was the fact that there are people by the name of Goodyear in the same parish, but there are Goodyears also in Herriard. I came across them and usually when I came across them, I noted them in case the clerk had made a mistake of some kind. One of the things that I watched for was the fact that there is a Hampton family that is very prominent in Preston-Candover. I watched because sometimes the “H” and the “R” are similar. I wanted to be very certain that if he was recorded sometimes as John Hampton and sometimes as John Rampton that is wasn’t just a mistake, but that there were two separate families. I’ve done that, and I’ve copied the extra pages. We also have Frampton and Compton and Banton. There are other names that are similar to Rampton, but as I’ve gone through the records, I’ve been very careful to note when they appear.
The parish was not the only jurisdiction that performed marriages. There were marriages that were performed at the diocese and registry in Winchester. Since there were members of this family who were married in Winchester by license, I’ve copied the information as nearly as I could find it. I’ve also gone into additional parishes in the area immediately around, but the really hard work will be devoted to Monk Sherborne and to Tadley. I’ve already searched the parish of Pamber. There may be additional parishes that we will look at. The hard research now is about to begin, because we now have, I believe, the origins of your John Rampton and his family. I am so excited about it. I hope that as you hear what I have to say that you will become more and more excited about it as well.
As you remember John Rampton had a son who was named Francis. At the time that Francis died, he was living in South Warnborough which is a parish a little distance from Herriard. There is a considerable relationship between those two parishes. The Hawkins family is an old yeoman family in South Warenborough and it could be that Francis was in Warnborough because he had relatives there. One of the most common reasons for someone to move is for work, but they often moved to be employed by a family member. It is very possible that that is the reason he went there.
Now I was able to find a short history on this little parish. One of the things that I discovered is, number one, that it is a very old place; and number two that it was a hot-bed of Roman Catholicism and that the Hawkins, who were an old yeoman family, were connected with the Roman Catholics. There were also called “popish recusants” because they refused to take the oath of allegiance to the Church of England. They held alligence to the Pope. So you will find a number of different ways that they are recorded in the records themselves, but interestingly enough there are a number of early censuses through part of the 1600’s and early 1700”s. I have a great deal of optimism that we can determine exactly how these families fit together.
The very last section of this report has two maps. I’ve used the map in the previous report. Now we have added these other parishes and their relationships to Herriard which, of course, was our main parish of interest. I’ve also pulled those items that we are going to concentrate on in the research. I’ve pulled the references from the Family History Catalog so that we will be ready to go to work once you approve of the next stage of research.